[Communications] Fwd: Fwd: CCGA Conference - discount for vets?

[Amy Olson]

Thank you Mamie,

I feel this gesture creates something that is just as important as organization/structure: goodwill.

We are all learning day by day and we all want to do better. If we want CCGA to grow (which it can!) we need a healthy mix of structure and also some flexibility to extend goodwill.

I feel we do need to have some guidelines in place for next year for discounts, groups, scholarships, the presenters, etc. We can establish something and then won’t have to revisit it philosophically each time something comes up.

.…….…
amy olson
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> On Feb 20, 2020, at 19:15, Mamie Gray via Communications <communications at chicagocommunitygardens.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> When Daniel C. gets to Table 2, Sally can let him know that his registration was paid. anonymously. Mamie
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:59 PM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mamie,
>> 
>> I suppose what's next is that you contact the man and state that we do no offer military discounts, but that you would like ot cover his registration.
>> 
>> Then we move on, at what 'cost' I'm not sure, but with the understanding that we hear each other first. I mean words are actions in our minds.  We hear each other first.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:52 PM Mamie Gray <mamiegray2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This week has been like the Twilight Zone. Resources distributing tools but not at the Conference, OK registrations given, not next year, to all presenters because we see their worth, sustainability table only for those who bring something. What’s next? Mamie
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:41 PM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> As a teacher for 30+ years I wrote many letters of recommendations to the courts and to recruitment offices for young men and women who wanted the opportunities that came with joining the armed forces.  One judge said she would pick only one letter  among those submiteed  by a young offender who wanted to join the service.  She picked mine, he got  his dream.
>>>> 
>>>> I support second chances and what military service means to vets.  We really have to hold the line on every request for discount when we have no basis.  He's not asking for special treatment, just a yes or no to his question. The answer is NO we do not offer military discounts. How did this become an issue of worth of his decisions or actions?  
>>>> 
>>>> What Mamie does with her own $$ is none of my concern.  Changing registration as written, doing anything on a case by case basis is again structurally flawed and philosophically unsound.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:25 PM Mamie Gray via Communications <communications at chicagocommunitygardens.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> FYI
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: Mamie Gray <mamiegray2012 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Communications] Fwd: CCGA Conference - discount for vets?
>>>>> To: Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be OK for Amy to write to him and ask him to register at “Table 3, Walk-Ins.” I will pay for him anonymously. Mamie
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:17 PM Mamie Gray <mamiegray2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I guess my willingness to pay his fee, full if necessary, will not fly either? Please advise. Mamie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:14 PM Lorraine Kells via Communications <communications at chicagocommunitygardens.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree with Gina. Thank you for the suggestion; we'll take it up for next year, but at this point once again changing registration is not going to fly.  We have to stand with what we put out on our website, our flyers, any information we have already put out without making "back room" exceptions to our registration as it stands.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The exception that we make on a case by case basis is too flawed structurally and philosophically.  What does it mean to be a veteran; someone who went to base camp and learned carpentry and then left the army? Yes that's a vet who gets veteran benefits; it's my brother.  His beneifts are great. Does he need to be comped to a conference because  he's a vet NO. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> These requests become issues that easily become divisive, unmanageable and unreasonable arguments rather than decisions that can be made by email.  All registration fees are as stated on the form.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lorraine
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