[Communications] [Resources] Another community garden caught in red tape over water policy

Sat Jul 25 08:59:44 CDT 2020

Any thought of putting this before a coordinating committee motion for full
acknowledgment? We should at least host a zoom meeting and make sure we are
including chairs and working groups.  So far this has been just a few of us.

Lorraine

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 2:48 AM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Amy has a CCGA template for a survey/form so I think we should just go
> ahead and use that to collect the data.  Maybe Mamie can email the link
> once Amy has it set up.  Below is an updated draft of the survey.  Please
> edit as needed.  I have a work day at Skinner Park tomorrow ( or rather
> today ) so will have only limited access to email.
>
> I think we should use all channels to collect this information.  Please
> send out when ready.
>
> Thanks.
> May
>
> ---
>
> CCGA Water Survey -DRAFT
>
> Water is a vital resource and we understand that some community gardens
> are struggling to access water given the City of Chicago - Dept of Water's
> new policy and procedure to obtain a fire hydrant permit.  We are working
> on water access for community gardens.  Please take the following survey.
> All information is held confidential.
>
> Please answer the following questions.
> 1) Your Name
> 2) Your Email or Phone Number
> 3) Garden Name
> 4) Garden Address
> 5) Are you the garden leader?  If not, please provide the garden leader's
> name and contact information.
> 6) Do you currently have access to water for your community garden?
> 7) Does your community garden use water from a fire hydrant?
> 8) What is the main source of water for your community garden if you don't
> use a fire hydrant?
> 9) Did your community garden have to get a permit for your water?
> 10) Does your community garden have to pay for it's water?
> 11) Does your community garden have liability insurance?
> 12) Does your community garden need help with water access or help to
> lower the cost of water?
>
>
>
> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient
> specified in message only. Do not share any part of this message with any
> third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this
> message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its
> deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur again.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:42 PM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the update.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Breanne was at Skinner this morning and I spoke with her a little bit
>>> about it.  For the Park District community gardens only 2 use fire hydrants
>>> and she is trying to help them but apparently the City of Chicago's law
>>> department is insisting on liability insurance even though it sits on Park
>>> District land.  Mainly because the Park District agreement with community
>>> gardens is that the Park District assumes no liability,
>>>
>>> I'm helping Breanne to get lower cost liability insurance for those
>>> gardens.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> May
>>>
>>> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient
>>> specified in message only. Do not share any part of this message with any
>>> third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this
>>> message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its
>>> deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:33 PM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. Include this question. May, when do you plan to send the
>>>> survey/questionaire? Using Mamie's list, I assume to reach most people. If
>>>> possible we could put it on the website to reach additional advocacy even
>>>> if the particular garden is not affected by water issue with hydrant, we
>>>> all have an investment in safe water policy in the city.
>>>>
>>>> We need Breanne to possibly add some information , so.forward this to
>>>> her?
>>>>
>>>> I did send an email to her an email on the 23rd and you were copied
>>>> May, but no reply as yet.
>>>>
>>>> Lorraine
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 2:23 PM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Lorraine and Amy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we also add the question :  Does your community garden have
>>>>> liability insurance?
>>>>>
>>>>> The City of Chicago is requiring a liability insurance policy and
>>>>> non-Neighborspace gardens usually will not have their own policy including
>>>>> many Park District gardens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> May
>>>>>
>>>>> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>> recipient specified in message only. Do not share any part of this message
>>>>> with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you
>>>>> received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow
>>>>> with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur
>>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:09 AM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> May,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I forgot to mention that I did call Mary Fanning and had to leave a
>>>>>> message, so this is a way to pull information and people together who might
>>>>>> otherwise be out left high and dry!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lorraine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 8:59 AM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this is a great idea. We need to get ahead of news stories
>>>>>>> that don't provide any steps to action.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lorraine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 7:25 AM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can we send out an email or survey to all the community gardens
>>>>>>>> asking the following questions?   I can set up this up as a survey in
>>>>>>>> Google Docs if everyone thinks that would be easier.   If we can get a list
>>>>>>>> of community gardens who don't have access to fire hydrants or who don't
>>>>>>>> have a permit this year but did in prior years, I can start to advocate for
>>>>>>>> water access for those immediately even if it's on a temporary basis for
>>>>>>>> this year while working towards a long term policy.
>>>>>>>> To pass an ordinance codifying access and rates for community
>>>>>>>> gardens will take several months once we can get buy-in from the aldermen
>>>>>>>> and the City.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are advocating for water access for community gardens.  Please
>>>>>>>> answer the following questions.
>>>>>>>> 1) Garden Name and Garden Leaders Names
>>>>>>>> 2) Garden Address
>>>>>>>> 3) Do you currently have access to water for your community garden?
>>>>>>>> 4) Does your community garden use water from a fire hydrant?
>>>>>>>> 5) What is the main source of water for your community garden if
>>>>>>>> you don't use a fire hydrant?
>>>>>>>> 6) Did your community garden have to get a permit for your water?
>>>>>>>> 7) Does your community garden have to pay for it's water?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>>>> recipient specified in message only. Do not share any part of this message
>>>>>>>> with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you
>>>>>>>> received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow
>>>>>>>> with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:18 PM Mamie Gray <mamiegray2012 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Lorraine! I am checking through my files. In the meantime, I
>>>>>>>>> am forwarding an email from “Mary Rachel Fanning” (that you might already
>>>>>>>>> have) in a separate email. Mamie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:00 PM Lorraine Kells via Resources <
>>>>>>>>> resources at chicagocommunitygardens.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mamie,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Communications would like to talk with these gardeners, could you
>>>>>>>>>> give us a contact please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, there is no mention of what the most recent
>>>>>>>>>> changes are that denied Monarch Community garden an inspection.   We're all
>>>>>>>>>> playing catch-up with this and need to keep track of it no matter how
>>>>>>>>>> quickly it changes.  Has anyone of you been in touch with this garden?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/community-garden-without-
>>>>>>>>>> water-after-paying-city-of-chicago-1700
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Resources mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Resources at chicagocommunitygardens.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://chicagocommunitygardens.org/mailman/listinfo/resources_chicagocommunitygardens.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://chicagocommunitygardens.org/pipermail/communications_chicagocommunitygardens.org/attachments/20200725/4d721b28/attachment-0001.html>