[Communications] [Resources] Another community garden caught in red tape over water policy

Sat Jul 25 09:14:58 CDT 2020

Zoom is really easy but email may better keep the focus on this issue
alone. So yes, go with email. Put a reasonable deadline for response on
committee email to get this moving. People may be in their gardens and not
respond in a timely manner if not pressed to do so. Just a thought.

Lorraine

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 9:09 AM Amy Olson <akeo at me.com> wrote:

> I agree about looping in the larger working groups and ideally having a
> motion of support. Can we do it via email if a meeting can’t be arranged
> soon?
>
> I’d like to suggest a few edits to the survey May drafted. I’ll send those
> along via this thread this morning. And I will set it up using the template
> we have from past forms and surveys.
>
> Thanks May!!
>
> Amy
>
>
> .…….…
> amy olson
> sent via iphone
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2020, at 08:59, Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Any thought of putting this before a coordinating committee motion for
> full acknowledgment? We should at least host a zoom meeting and make sure
> we are including chairs and working groups.  So far this has been just a
> few of us.
>
> Lorraine
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 2:48 AM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Amy has a CCGA template for a survey/form so I think we should just go
>> ahead and use that to collect the data.  Maybe Mamie can email the link
>> once Amy has it set up.  Below is an updated draft of the survey.  Please
>> edit as needed.  I have a work day at Skinner Park tomorrow ( or rather
>> today ) so will have only limited access to email.
>>
>> I think we should use all channels to collect this information.  Please
>> send out when ready.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> May
>>
>> ---
>>
>> CCGA Water Survey -DRAFT
>>
>> Water is a vital resource and we understand that some community gardens
>> are struggling to access water given the City of Chicago - Dept of Water's
>> new policy and procedure to obtain a fire hydrant permit.  We are working
>> on water access for community gardens.  Please take the following survey.
>> All information is held confidential.
>>
>> Please answer the following questions.
>> 1) Your Name
>> 2) Your Email or Phone Number
>> 3) Garden Name
>> 4) Garden Address
>> 5) Are you the garden leader?  If not, please provide the garden leader's
>> name and contact information.
>> 6) Do you currently have access to water for your community garden?
>> 7) Does your community garden use water from a fire hydrant?
>> 8) What is the main source of water for your community garden if you
>> don't use a fire hydrant?
>> 9) Did your community garden have to get a permit for your water?
>> 10) Does your community garden have to pay for it's water?
>> 11) Does your community garden have liability insurance?
>> 12) Does your community garden need help with water access or help to
>> lower the cost of water?
>>
>>
>>
>> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient
>> specified in message only. Do not share any part of this message with any
>> third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this
>> message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its
>> deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur again.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:42 PM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Breanne was at Skinner this morning and I spoke with her a little bit
>>>> about it.  For the Park District community gardens only 2 use fire hydrants
>>>> and she is trying to help them but apparently the City of Chicago's law
>>>> department is insisting on liability insurance even though it sits on Park
>>>> District land.  Mainly because the Park District agreement with community
>>>> gardens is that the Park District assumes no liability,
>>>>
>>>> I'm helping Breanne to get lower cost liability insurance for those
>>>> gardens.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> May
>>>>
>>>> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
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>>>> with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you
>>>> received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow
>>>> with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:33 PM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Include this question. May, when do you plan to send the
>>>>> survey/questionaire? Using Mamie's list, I assume to reach most people. If
>>>>> possible we could put it on the website to reach additional advocacy even
>>>>> if the particular garden is not affected by water issue with hydrant, we
>>>>> all have an investment in safe water policy in the city.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need Breanne to possibly add some information , so.forward this to
>>>>> her?
>>>>>
>>>>> I did send an email to her an email on the 23rd and you were copied
>>>>> May, but no reply as yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lorraine
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 2:23 PM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Lorraine and Amy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we also add the question :  Does your community garden have
>>>>>> liability insurance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The City of Chicago is requiring a liability insurance policy and
>>>>>> non-Neighborspace gardens usually will not have their own policy including
>>>>>> many Park District gardens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>> recipient specified in message only. Do not share any part of this message
>>>>>> with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you
>>>>>> received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow
>>>>>> with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:09 AM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I forgot to mention that I did call Mary Fanning and had to leave a
>>>>>>> message, so this is a way to pull information and people together who might
>>>>>>> otherwise be out left high and dry!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lorraine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 8:59 AM Lorraine Kells <lxkells at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> May,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think this is a great idea. We need to get ahead of news stories
>>>>>>>> that don't provide any steps to action.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lorraine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 7:25 AM M Toy <mtoy.usa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can we send out an email or survey to all the community gardens
>>>>>>>>> asking the following questions?   I can set up this up as a survey in
>>>>>>>>> Google Docs if everyone thinks that would be easier.   If we can get a list
>>>>>>>>> of community gardens who don't have access to fire hydrants or who don't
>>>>>>>>> have a permit this year but did in prior years, I can start to advocate for
>>>>>>>>> water access for those immediately even if it's on a temporary basis for
>>>>>>>>> this year while working towards a long term policy.
>>>>>>>>> To pass an ordinance codifying access and rates for community
>>>>>>>>> gardens will take several months once we can get buy-in from the aldermen
>>>>>>>>> and the City.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are advocating for water access for community gardens.  Please
>>>>>>>>> answer the following questions.
>>>>>>>>> 1) Garden Name and Garden Leaders Names
>>>>>>>>> 2) Garden Address
>>>>>>>>> 3) Do you currently have access to water for your community garden?
>>>>>>>>> 4) Does your community garden use water from a fire hydrant?
>>>>>>>>> 5) What is the main source of water for your community garden if
>>>>>>>>> you don't use a fire hydrant?
>>>>>>>>> 6) Did your community garden have to get a permit for your water?
>>>>>>>>> 7) Does your community garden have to pay for it's water?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>>>>> recipient specified in message only. Do not share any part of this message
>>>>>>>>> with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you
>>>>>>>>> received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow
>>>>>>>>> with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur
>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:18 PM Mamie Gray <
>>>>>>>>> mamiegray2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Lorraine! I am checking through my files. In the meantime,
>>>>>>>>>> I am forwarding an email from “Mary Rachel Fanning” (that you might already
>>>>>>>>>> have) in a separate email. Mamie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:00 PM Lorraine Kells via Resources <
>>>>>>>>>> resources at chicagocommunitygardens.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mamie,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Communications would like to talk with these gardeners,
>>>>>>>>>>> could you give us a contact please?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, there is no mention of what the most recent
>>>>>>>>>>> changes are that denied Monarch Community garden an inspection.   We're all
>>>>>>>>>>> playing catch-up with this and need to keep track of it no matter how
>>>>>>>>>>> quickly it changes.  Has anyone of you been in touch with this garden?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/community-garden-without-
>>>>>>>>>>> water-after-paying-city-of-chicago-1700
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> Resources at chicagocommunitygardens.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://chicagocommunitygardens.org/mailman/listinfo/resources_chicagocommunitygardens.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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